Both candidates achieved their goals during debate


  1. longfeatherepistein says:


    I looked at your numbers and I like the link, but amigo they show NM to be in bad shape.

    Public Unions should be banned

  2. Thomas Molitor says:

    Both candidates seem to want to “reduce administration costs and put more money into the classroom.” Let’s start with the moderator for the evening – APS Superintendent Winston Brooks. He makes a “base salary” of $260,000?

  3. Hemingway says:

    Governor Richardson despite his shortcoming hit the nail on the head when he said of Martinez: “All she can do is make false claims about my record and continually get her facts wrong. Voters will see through her attempt to hide her support for school vouchers and her ultimate desire to cut classroom spending.”

    Ms. Martinez and her Republican cohorts want VOUCHERS! From the debate you can tell Ms. Martinez has absolutely no understanding of PUBLIC EDUCATION.

  4. John Fremont says:

    Ched – of course the union protects incompetant teachers – they pay dues. The NEA, AFT, and others aren’t in the business of education – frankly, they could care less – but they ARE in the business of increasing funding to teachers (good or bad) and keeping their own jobs in the union. Kids and education, as you would like to see it, are not part of their business but it part of their cover and the ruse to raise their funding.

    Hemingway – NM is dead last in math and science. Richardson has been a failure as ‘the education governor’ – like the teacher unions, his business had nothing to do with education and everything to do with creating a presidential aura that – thankfully (the aura) – failed. Denish cares, but can’t duck the fact she sold out to ensure she had a seat at the table … ironic that she kept her mouth shut. While she is not responsible for the mismanagement and corruption of the Ricardson administration, she is responsible for her lack of character in not exposing it and for helping to ensure NM education are more about jobs than educating our youth.

    As for the debate … Martinez illustrated that she really doesn’t know a whole lot about education – but she has passion and fire in the belly. She is smart – she can learn (unfortunately, she’ll do that ‘on the job’). Denish knows a little more than Martinez (which we should expect since she has been on-the-job for eight years), and she did a better job in the debate. One problem Denish has, however, is that she is boring and uninspiring … not a good thing in a governor for a State in Crisis. And APS – thanks for putting it on … you should be ashamed of the small, cramped venue for such an important event … which is illustrative of the lack of foresight and vision that has been inbred in APS … for excluding broad press coverage … for excluding people who showed up at the door when there were still vacant seats. A public event in a public building … shame on you.

    Thanks for your comments Heath – wish you could have been there.

  5. ched macquigg says:


    Teacher unions do not protect bad teachers; they protect rules that must be followed to fire teachers. Bad teachers can sometimes take advantage of the rules. There are no bad teachers who still have jobs unless the rules to fire them were not followed.

    The leading reason for not being able to fire bad teachers is administrators too incompetent to adequately document their bad teaching.

    What possible reason could teacher unions have to protect bad teachers?

  6. greenchili says:

    Oops……I forgot to address the fact that it was obvious that Denish was pandering to the teacher’s Union…..the same Union that protects incompent teachers.

    NM education system needs COMPETITION! We need vouchers for all students located in incompetent schools. If the Superintendent can’t fire incompetent Principals of low ranked schools, then we need vouchers. Obviously, Martinez is scared of the teacher’s Union. Note that good schools should be exempt from vouchers, i.e. they can accept students with vouchers, but they can’t lose students (exemption).

    I speak from experience as I helped my grown daughter move her daughter into a more competent school. The two Principals handled the transfer as they knew that my granddaughter’s case would have been elevated to the Superintendent (I used to make my living as a negotiator).

    The incompetent teacher is still employed. This is one reason why we are at the bottom of the national rankings.

  7. greenchili says:

    Regardless of what some say, I’ve read articles about NM education nationwide ranking. We are at or near the bottom of the list. Hemingway’s link to NCES doesn’t even address the national ranking.

    Martinez addressed ONE of the critical reasons WHY this state is in the red. She addressed the fact that we were spending a lot of money educating Mexican citizens (aka illegal aliens) without the support of the Federal Government who has FAILED to secure our borders. She stated that we need to go after the Feds for appropriate funding.

    She could also use the same argument for Medicaid Funding.

    And she lost the debate? Give me a break!!!!

  8. qofdisks says:

    Only Heath thinks it is a good thing for Denish to distance herself from Richardson. He actually helped this state’s educational system dig itself out of a deep hole compared to the other states. Denish would keep that school improvement momentum going.

  9. ched macquigg says:


    It would be a lot easier to take you seriously if you could control your vitriol.

    What happened, did a “repubklican” (sic) run over your dog or something?

  10. murphy says:

    Actually Susanna should take credit for the passage of the Brianna Bill. Susanna arranged for a contingent of people to be in Santa Fe to support the bill and to let our Legislators know that this was a bill that was important and needed to be passed. Senator Garcia introduced the bill and when she was through speaking no one knew what she was talking about and the bill was in danger of failing. Susanna then spoke and cleared up all of the inaccuracies that Senator Garcia presented and made it clear the intent of the bill. The bill would have never passed if it had just been Senator Garcia alone.

  11. Hemingway says:

    I am surprised that Ms. Martinez didn’t mention Baby Briana in the debate like in her repetitive TV ad. She takes total credit for the legislation that resulted. In 2005 it was Mary Jane Garcia In 2005 that was legislative leader that got passage of SB 166, a bill known as the “Baby Briana Bill” It created life sentences for child abuse resulting in death. Thank you, Ms. Garcia for getting this bill passed despite the fact Ms. Martinez claims all credit!

  12. Hemingway says:

    Ms. Martinez supports vouchers from this video:

    Now she is backtracking. If she is elected governor she will change her mind again since all her repubklican buddies support it. I guess you can’t believe what you hear from these politicians. As a Republican she should be concerned about violating the Constitution. The voucher program subverts the constitutional principle of separation of church and state and threatens to undermine public education.

  13. bobwolfe says:

    Susanna Martinez achieved the goal of being as vague as humanly possible while dishing out red meat rhetoric to her conservative base a la Sarah Palin. Martinez was repeticious, rambling, condescending, and clearly out of her league. For a lawyer, who should be able to think on her feet, she stunk to high heaven.

  14. Hemingway says:

    Despite the soundbites of Ms. Martinez – here is a more accurate assessment of New Mexico education by National Center for Education Statistics: