Comments on: Thanksgiving and the veil of ignorance

By: Dr. J

Dr. J — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:41:42 +0000

I totally agree Dr. In fact we all now know why Pelosi/Reid/Obama wanted this travesty of a bill passed before August recess, so no one would have time to read it and understand the damage it does to America. Why anyone would want Pelosi/Reid/Obama and their incompetent staffs to write a bill this important and shove it down our throats if beyond me. You cannot trust these people to look out for all citizens best interest. If you read the bills you see who they are looking out for, not seniors on Medicare, not taxpayers, and not those who already have good health insurance and want to keep it.

By: Michael Swickard, Ph.D.

Michael Swickard, Ph.D. — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:05:31 +0000

Perhaps it would be better to use the reverse Golden Rule: Do not do unto others as you would like not done to you. I do not want imposed upon me that someone gets to decide I should not get a treatment that I need in the name of what is best for the society as a whole.

I do not want my last thought in life to be that Congress allowed bureaucrats to kill me with this healthcare policy that at the core takes healthcare away rather than gives it. The urgency to pass this bill is not that people are dying without it because the benefits do not start for four years. The taxes start now. They must pass it before the next election cycle because the majority of Americans do not want it.

By: wedum59

wedum59 — Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:55:20 +0000

Thinker writes, “Two ways to the world there be, One says “Us”the other says”Me.”And in the end we get what we see.”Cummins seems to feel that he is only willing to be an “Us” person if he can be sure that none of his donations go to any “Me” persons. Sorry, that’s not the way it works–God’s rain falls on the just and the unjust.I don’t agree that the Apache code he talks about is a Golden Rule code, sounds more like a “Me” code to me.

By: Thinker

Thinker — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:04:45 +0000

Two ways to the world there be, One says “Us”the other says”Me.”And in the end we get what we see.

By: Joseph Cummins

Joseph Cummins — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:43:49 +0000

The golden rule – treat others like I want to be treated – is an appropriate protocol regarding the human community.

The Apache of yesteryears practiced their brand of the golden rule, which was (Sun Tzu) the art and pride of getting away with theft.

There have always been browsers and predators. As I see it, the takers (receivers’ who don’t reciprocate) are predators and everyone else are browsers.

The question is — will browsers continue allowing predators to take? For instance — how have the poor paid back what they have taken? And how can a taxpayer funded insurance scheme ever reconcile the golden rule books?

History clearly illustrates that a progressive (Marxist) Utopia is a ignorantly veiled pipedream of nightmarish proportions.

By: Dr. J

Dr. J — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:23:53 +0000

Great idea wedum59. I would propose the same thing for illegal aliens getting health care in the various bills in Congress now, and those who want the government to run your health care in total with a “public option”. I do not want my tax dollars used that way, but those that do should have the right to contribute as they see fit to fund these things. Otherwise, leave our existing health insurance alone and those who want all these things need to pay for them, not the rest of us. This “golden rule” stuff could be useful after all.

By: Dr. J

Dr. J — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 15:03:43 +0000

Very interesting premises here. I would suspect the “veil of ignorance” would also include ignorance of economics, practicality, and logic as well. To want to protect and keep everyone safe, well educated, and healthy at all times from all things is a very expensive undertaking in government policy. Is it even possible to guarantee no one would ever have problems paying for health care, die unnecessarily, get whatever education they want without an economic burden, etc. and all would be treated equally and “fairly”. I’m sorry, this premise is just esoteric musing devoid of reality. If not, can you imagine what our tax bills would be to accomplish this nirvana?

By: wedum59

wedum59 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 14:43:25 +0000

I attanded a “Harry in your Hometown” meeting in Ruidoso last night, and there were several comments about his vote for the Stupak amendment. I asked congressman Teague to take back to the congressional leadership a proposal for a ‘golden rule’ option for a voluntary added tax that would allow those of us that want OUR tax dollars to be used to help fund abortions for poor women to do so. It would be a checkoff line with a box to insert how many tax dollars the person wanted ADDED to their tax bill to be earmarked for abortion funding. When asked to raise their hands, at least a half-dozen in an audience of roughly fourty did support this idea. And Lincoln county is one of the more conservative areas in the 2nd congressional district.The wishes of those who do NOT want their Federal tax dollars to pay for abortions have been respected for many years. It is time to apply the Golden Rule to those of us who DO.