Egolf wants more oversight for land office

Egolf, Brian

Brian Egolf

‘This is government in secret,” State Rep. Brian Egolf says of a proposed land swap in Northern New Mexico. “This is government behind closed doors.”

Tuesday is the the final day to submit a bid at the State Land Office to acquire thousands of prime acres around White Peaks in Northern New Mexico, but State Rep. Brian Egolf says it appears only a lawsuit can stop the first part of a deal that New Mexico State Land Commissioner Pat Lyons has made with two private ranchers.

Egolf believes the deal between Express UU Bar Ranches, LLC, Stanley Ranches and the state land office has been in the works for months, if not years.

“There has been no public process up to this point,” Egolf told NMPolitics.net. “It has all been done behind closed doors, which is the opposite of the way we need to be doing things with our public lands.”

So on Friday, Egolf grilled Lyons at a Legislative Finance Committee hearing in Santa Fe about the land office’s plan for  four different exchanges in the area with UU Bar and Stanley Ranches.

“We’re losing 4,000 acres of prime hunting and fishing land in exchange for scrub brush along desolate highway,” Egolf said. “It’s not a fair trade to give up timber, wooded areas and incredible water resources on the mesa top in exchange for barren dry scrub land along the highway. It doesn’t make any sense to me.”

Patrick Lyons

Patrick Lyons

A complicated deal defines boundaries

Lyons told 770KKOB News that the land swap includes four different exchanges, and said his detractors shouldn’t analyze just one. He insists the four deals need to be looked at as a group.

“One thing, it’s been very controversial area for about 50 years because it’s all checker-boarded,” Lyons said. “It has private land mingled in with state land, and state land mingled in with private land. So it’s always been a contention of private property rights versus access.”

The land commissioner said after the deal is completed, “it’s going to be continuous acres of 25,000 acres on one side and 18,000 acres on the other side with the state land being in the middle — and that way we’ll know where the definite boundaries are.”

Still, Egolf wants to know how the deal benefits the beneficiaries of state lands. At the hearing Egolf asked Lyons how public school children will benefit.

“I’m very sad to say that I learned that he can present no justification what so ever for doing this land transfer,” Egolf said. “I asked him explicitly — ‘How does this land transfer benefit the school children of the State of New Mexico?’ — and he couldn’t answer the question.”

But Lyons is defending the deal, which he said has been advertised, as required by law, for 10 days.

“The state trust always has to receive benefits,” Lyons said.  “We make at least 10 percent. We only exchange surface for surface. We always keep our subsurface, because we don’t know what the value of the mineral is underneath there. ”

The land commissioner, who is term-limited and is not running for re-election in 2010, also insists the land office benefits on the appraised value of each exchange.

Is the deal really a win-win?

“The major thing about it is we’re going to improve the wildlife habitat so much up there. And it’s going to improve the quality of the hunting up there,” Lyons said. “We’re going to close some roads that are eroded that aren’t good for the environment. At the same time we’re going to try to get one good all-weather road in there for all familes to have access. It’s a win-win situation.”

But it’s hunting and fishing that have  Gov. Bill Richardson and Egolf concerned. They fear once fences and gates are put up the ranchers might open a private hunting business on the land.

“Once its private land the regular folks can’t hunt on it anymore, because it’s not public property, so UU Bar and Stanley Ranches will be able to fence this land off and keep people out,” Egolf said. “You’re going people from the north who traditionally have used this as prime hunting and fishing land they’re not going to be able to go there anymore. White Peaks is not some anonymous, random piece of property. This is an important area culturally for the northern part of the state.”

The issue with UU Bar emerged six years ago, when the ranchers from Oklahoma put up a barrier — which prevented sportsman from crossing through the ranch on a public road to access the state lands.

After litigation in 2003, the New Mexico Supreme Court ruled against UU Bar and the road was reopened.

“You take land people have enjoyed for generations and because one person decides it’s a good idea it’s going to be gone forever,” Egolf said. “The governor and Legislature can’t do things like that. We’ve got constituents to answer to and we’ve got public meeting requirements and all these things to make sure that there’s huge amount of public input to every decision we make. At the land office it’s the opposite. They’re doing everything they can to keep it secret.”

Lyons claims nothing was done in secret and said public comment remains open until 4 p.m. on Tuesday.

“The bid process closes Tuesday for one of the first part of the exchange. The second one is on December 8th, and the third and fourth haven’t been advertised yet, so we don’t even have a bid in the office yet. They don’t even come in until the last day,” he said. “When the come in we’ll evaluate all of them and see what’s in the best interest of the trust and then we’ll go from there.”

More public hearings proposed for land deals

But Egolf, who couldn’t find any maps on the land office’s Web site and finally received maps and other documents  related to the land swap after filing a public records request, said he doesn’t believe the process has been open at all.

In fact, he believes the land office “wanted as little attention as possible because they know that this is a bad deal for New Mexico.” Now Egolf is proposing more oversight, review and public hearings on state land exchanges.

“The State Land office is the most powerful office you’ve never heard of,” Egolf said. “He’s got no oversight, no review, and no public process. So as long as he publishes a notice in a newspaper that he wants to dispose of this property, he can sell it to anybody he wants to for any price that he thinks is appropriate. He doesn’t have to show any analysis about what makes this a good deal for the school kids of New Mexico.”

Egolf said he’s considering introducing legislation to make future land deals follow the same open meeting rules that the government agencies and the legislature follow.

For now, Egolf believes the only way to stop the proposed land deal is to file a lawsuit.

“Public scrunity is critical in this process. (Lyons) needs to understand that people are paying attention,” Egolf said. “hopefully we won’t have these kinds of bad deals done in the future.”

St. Cyr is a contributing writer for this site and a reporter at 770KKOB.com. He can be reached at peter.stcyr@gmail.com.

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