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	<title>Comments on: Senators unveil Doña Ana County wilderness bill</title>
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		<title>By: srsjones825</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8668</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great news!</description>
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		<title>By: Dr. J</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8655</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hemingway I think you should wait and read the bill before you assume the military use is not restricted.  After all we all know Udall&#039;s dislike of the military and his pacifist views.  Much can be done in a bill to restrict overflight, buffer zone area and useage, etc. that would damage vital economic interests around LC.  This along with onerous restrictions on access and use, as I know exist in previous Bingaman/Udall land lockups, are cause for concern.  So far they have not released the text of the bill in full (S. 1689), only summaries in the Congressional Record proceedings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hemingway I think you should wait and read the bill before you assume the military use is not restricted.  After all we all know Udall&#8217;s dislike of the military and his pacifist views.  Much can be done in a bill to restrict overflight, buffer zone area and useage, etc. that would damage vital economic interests around LC.  This along with onerous restrictions on access and use, as I know exist in previous Bingaman/Udall land lockups, are cause for concern.  So far they have not released the text of the bill in full (S. 1689), only summaries in the Congressional Record proceedings.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemingway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Egad - the wilderness designation will absolutely have no effect on military. There are too many conspiratorial minds out there. As Professor Hofstadter once stated: &quot;We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world, with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egad &#8211; the wilderness designation will absolutely have no effect on military. There are too many conspiratorial minds out there. As Professor Hofstadter once stated: &#8220;We are all sufferers from history, but the paranoid is a double sufferer, since he is afflicted not only by the real world, with the rest of us, but by his fantasies as well.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: jivaro99</title>
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		<dc:creator>jivaro99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 12:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>9/19/09
By the time this bill comes before the Senate, there will be so many addendums tacked onto it, that we will not be able to figure out if it is a &#039;save the wilderness&#039; bill or something entirely different. 

I agree with Michael that there should be wording in it that would protect the military bases and their operations in perpetuity. I doubt that we will se that included though.

As far as Teague voting for or against anything that will benefit his constituents in Dona Ana County, it will be highly unlikely. Oh well, just a little more garbage to be shoveled at our door by Bingaman and Udall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9/19/09<br />
By the time this bill comes before the Senate, there will be so many addendums tacked onto it, that we will not be able to figure out if it is a &#8216;save the wilderness&#8217; bill or something entirely different. </p>
<p>I agree with Michael that there should be wording in it that would protect the military bases and their operations in perpetuity. I doubt that we will se that included though.</p>
<p>As far as Teague voting for or against anything that will benefit his constituents in Dona Ana County, it will be highly unlikely. Oh well, just a little more garbage to be shoveled at our door by Bingaman and Udall.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. J</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8646</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Hemingway, this is just the ticket for Teague.  I am happy to see he voted &quot;no&quot; on the Joe Wilson reprimand and &quot;yes&quot; on defunding ACORN.  He as been bucking Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn lately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Hemingway, this is just the ticket for Teague.  I am happy to see he voted &#8220;no&#8221; on the Joe Wilson reprimand and &#8220;yes&#8221; on defunding ACORN.  He as been bucking Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn lately.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Swickard, Ph.D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Swickard, Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 20:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bill indicates that whoever has control of that land could not be trusted, eh? And, the Federal Government can be trusted. I hope this is not getting the nose of the camel under the &quot;get rid of the military in Southern New Mexico.&quot;

I would like to see both senators sign in blood (OK a bit dramatic) that this wilderness designation will **never** have even the slightest effect upon the military neighbors of the Wilderness.  We may have to define never, but I mean there will not be a time when some 

Like Dr. J says, perhaps just once people could read the bill before passage to see what the definition of &#039;is&#039; is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bill indicates that whoever has control of that land could not be trusted, eh? And, the Federal Government can be trusted. I hope this is not getting the nose of the camel under the &#8220;get rid of the military in Southern New Mexico.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would like to see both senators sign in blood (OK a bit dramatic) that this wilderness designation will **never** have even the slightest effect upon the military neighbors of the Wilderness.  We may have to define never, but I mean there will not be a time when some </p>
<p>Like Dr. J says, perhaps just once people could read the bill before passage to see what the definition of &#8216;is&#8217; is.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemingway</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8641</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congressman Harry Teague should be a co-sponsor of this important legislation to the preserve the Organ Mountains for posterity. The developers would love to build in this area.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congressman Harry Teague should be a co-sponsor of this important legislation to the preserve the Organ Mountains for posterity. The developers would love to build in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Hemingway</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8639</link>
		<dc:creator>Hemingway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senators Bingaman and Udall - thanks. Wilderness has been  a sad story in New Mexico.  According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, our neighbor Arizona has 1,343,444 acres of designated wilderness areas while New Mexico has a paltry 39,908 acres. This has been a disgrace to New Mexicans.  In addition, wilderness will be a boost to tourism and will help our local economy. The time is now for the Organ Mountains wilderness! Thanks again for your &quot;strong leadership&quot; in supporting wilderness for Organ Mountains including Sierra de Las Uvas, Broad Canyon, Robledos and Greater Potrillo Mountain Areas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senators Bingaman and Udall &#8211; thanks. Wilderness has been  a sad story in New Mexico.  According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, our neighbor Arizona has 1,343,444 acres of designated wilderness areas while New Mexico has a paltry 39,908 acres. This has been a disgrace to New Mexicans.  In addition, wilderness will be a boost to tourism and will help our local economy. The time is now for the Organ Mountains wilderness! Thanks again for your &#8220;strong leadership&#8221; in supporting wilderness for Organ Mountains including Sierra de Las Uvas, Broad Canyon, Robledos and Greater Potrillo Mountain Areas.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. J</title>
		<link>http://www.nmpolitics.net/index/2009/09/senators-introduce-dona-ana-county-wilderness-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-8638</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:00:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is yet another bill the citizens need to read first.  Do not trust these people to write things properly and act in your best interests.  The last time Jeff took land away from public use he made collecting rocks and fossils a felony.  This is our land, not his and Tom&#039;s.  It needs to be open for citizens to enjoy, not taken away from us and turning children and scientists into felons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is yet another bill the citizens need to read first.  Do not trust these people to write things properly and act in your best interests.  The last time Jeff took land away from public use he made collecting rocks and fossils a felony.  This is our land, not his and Tom&#8217;s.  It needs to be open for citizens to enjoy, not taken away from us and turning children and scientists into felons.</p>
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